Opened 9 years ago

Closed 9 years ago

Last modified 7 years ago

#1501 closed defect (wontfix)

LiveJournal: Access Forbidden

Reported by: aynvudo Owned by: phobos
Priority: High Milestone:
Component: Core Tor/Tor Version:
Severity: Keywords: access forbidden livejournal spam bot tor-relay
Cc: Actual Points:
Parent ID: Points:
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Description

Because of the LiveJournal's bot policy the Tor users can't more access LJ through my Tor-server. Also now I can't more access LJ directly through browser. There are many other sites which use request frequency to forbid the access.

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Change History (6)

comment:1 Changed 9 years ago by aynvudo

Keywords: livejournal added

About LiveJournal bot policy
Main: no more than 5 connections per second and caching results.

Probable solution: appeal from TorProject to LJ according to How do I make my University / ISP / etc happy with my exit node?? and feature "request delay to site".
If a caching of request results on Tor-exit is available, acceptably and without security holes, it could propose a bonus to LJ reducing load to LJ servers by caching on Tor-exits.

Temporary workaround: ExcludeExitNodes setting of client options in torrc with LJ-banned Tor-exits. It would work until LJ bans all Tor-exits.

Also, look at active LJ support requests with banned IP (some IP - Tor-exits):
1087189 (4 IP - Tor-exits)
1098947
1095543
1097509
Emails to webmaster @ livejournal.com do nothing.

comment:2 Changed 9 years ago by aynvudo

Keywords: spam bot added
Priority: normalmajor

As a result of exterior mediated contact with LJ, Tor net is used extremely by spam bot owners now, especially high capacity nodes. Because of the mass-spam bot activity LJ denies access to Tor exit nodes. So as a result LJ will not be accessible through Tor net after LJ denies access to all Tor exit nodes.
Here is the list of some blocked nodes:
61.32.46.3, 62.141.53.224, 62.141.58.13, 62.212.67.209, 66.230.230.230, 85.17.254.135, 85.214.73.63, 87.118.101.175, 95.143.193.145, 98.134.7.226, 192.251.226.205, 192.251.226.206, 204.8.156.142, 212.42.236.140, 213.141.135.60, 216.224.124.124

The number of blocked by LJ Tor exit nodes increases rapidly and everyday.

comment:3 Changed 9 years ago by phobos

Owner: set to phobos
Status: newaccepted

This is the same problem we have with Google, Wikipedia, etc. Whether spam bots or not, sites seem to rely upon IP address as a means of authentication. I'll bet blocking tor nodes has done very little to nothing to stop their spam problem, and has only removed access for the users that actually need Tor to safely access livejournal. If you have a contact there, we're happy to talk to them.

comment:4 Changed 9 years ago by phobos

Resolution: wontfix
Status: acceptedclosed

Until nymble exists, not much we can do about LJ being silly and assuming an IP address is a person.

comment:5 Changed 7 years ago by nickm

Keywords: tor-relay added

comment:6 Changed 7 years ago by nickm

Component: Tor RelayTor
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