Create mailing list tor-es

Spanish-speaking Tor Project memebers agreed on the need to have a spanish-speaking list.

It will be a public list, from which a future private one may spin-off someday.

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Username: Envite

added component::internal services/service - lists priority::medium reporter::Envite resolution::wontfix status::closed type::task labels

Sounds like a fine idea to have such a list, and thanks for offering to run it.

The only thing that I'm not sure about is the list name tor-es@ and hence the missing indication what things will be discussed on the list. It seems most likely that there will be Spanish-only-speaking users on that list, maybe together with Spanish-only-speaking relay operators. How about we call it tor-users-es@ or tor-talk-es@?

Another issue with the name tor-es@ is that language abbreviations might conflict with other very short list names. For example, there's already a tor-qa@, and even though there's no qa language, people might not think of that list as a topic-oriented list rather than a language-oriented one. And what if we'd want to add a list for pluggable transports called tor-pt@, but there's already a list for Portuguese? I'd rather want to avoid that.

I'd also want to hear Damian's input here, because this decision defines the namespace for future non-English lists.

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Cc: N/A to atagar

I'd also want to hear Damian's input here, because this decision defines the namespace for future non-English lists.

Agreed. Personally I'd prefer for us to make a language-specific counterpart for a list we already have (tor-talk-es@ or tor-dev-es@) and see if it takes off or not.

We want, at first, to discuss on it among developers, help desk and users, mostly about the situation of tor in spanish (translations, UI errors, etc.) so I'm not sure if tor-talk-es@ or tor-dev-es@ would work, but I agree that simply tor-es@ could clogg the namespace too much.

tor-lang-es@ or tor-l10n-es@ ?

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Username: Envite

Aha, so I was in fact wrong when I assumed that the list would be for users and maybe relay operators who happen to speak Spanish but not English. It's for people who understand both Spanish and at least some English and want to help with localization into Spanish. In that case both names you suggest would work. Personally, I'd pick tor-l10n-es@.

On a related note, I could also see us create a tor-l10n@ list that is not specific to Spanish localization but localization in general. We could always subdivide that list later into tor-l10n-es@ and friends. But having a single list would avoid discussing related issues again and again on different lists.

Let me know what name you want for the list, and unless I hear a veto within 24 hours from that, I'll create a sysadmin ticket to make it happen.

Please let me know how to proceed here.

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Status: new to needs_information

Envite, I'm inclined to close this ticket if I don't hear back from you within the next few days. What do you think about my suggestions above?

Closing, feel free to reopen if you still want this list.

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Status: needs_information to closed
Resolution: N/A to wontfix

closed

mentioned in issue #25755 (moved)

mentioned in issue tpo/community/outreach#25755 (closed)