Opened 4 years ago

Closed 4 years ago

Last modified 3 months ago

#15149 closed enhancement (fixed)

"jabber.ccc.de" server preset

Reported by: cypherpunks Owned by: sukhbir
Priority: Medium Milestone:
Component: Archived/Tor Messenger Version:
Severity: Keywords:
Cc: arlolra Actual Points:
Parent ID: Points:
Reviewer: Sponsor:

Description

When creating an account in Tor Messenger 0.0.5, the server is preset to "jabber.ccc.de". As the XMPP options are hidden by default this probably won't be caught by people who don't know what to look for when authorization with the server fails.

Child Tickets

Change History (7)

comment:1 Changed 4 years ago by sukhbir

Cc: arlolra added
Owner: set to sukhbir
Status: newassigned
Type: defectenhancement

Good catch. The XMPP option needs some more work which we have documented in tickets #13855 and #12097. The issue you described should be fixed when we work on these two tickets. For the current release, we just picked jabber.ccc.de.

Future releases will allow you to pick a server (with harcoded onion addresses) and also allow you to create a new XMPP account from within Tor Messenger.

comment:2 Changed 4 years ago by cypherpunks

How is this related to #13855 and #12097 and why jabber.ccc.de? Why not blah.im, jabber.otr.im or others?

Be a bit considerate of the people who run jabber.ccc.de, please.

If you would like to put some other server as default, but don't have a trust chain, I could do some outreach to get permission from some of the nicer but unknown services.

comment:3 Changed 4 years ago by sukhbir

With #13855, we plan to have a dropdown menu where users can choose between different XMPP servers (in which case Tor Messenger will use their onion addresses). So there will be multiple servers to choose from (Riseup, jabber.ccc.de, etc.)

Why jabber.ccc.de? Well for one because we "trust" the server (even though you shouldn't trust any server and also every conversation is encrypted) and because many people use it. Also, since in-band XMPP registration is not supported yet, you would need an existing account with jabber.ccc.de (or you will need to create an account with Pidgin) to use it.

comment:4 in reply to:  2 Changed 4 years ago by arlolra

Be a bit considerate of the people who run jabber.ccc.de, please.

That's a legitimate concern. I think providing jabber.ccc.de as a convenient option is one thing, but defaulting to it undesirable.

comment:5 Changed 4 years ago by sukhbir

Resolution: fixed
Status: assignedclosed

We are no longer setting the default server to jabber.ccc.de. The current default is jabber.org (default in Instantbird) and users have to manually enter the server they want to use. We do make it easy by configuring HS access for known servers (see #13855 for the list) but otherwise we don't set any defaults.

comment:6 Changed 9 months ago by traumschule

<+sukhe> hello. yes, I think it's fine to close the tickets. thanks for doing what we should done earlier :)

sad but true:
https://blog.torproject.org/sunsetting-tor-messenger

luckily there are alternatives:
https://blog.torproject.org/tor-heart-onion-messaging

.. and maybe someday

comment:8 in reply to:  5 Changed 3 months ago by cypherpunks

Replying to sukhbir:

We are no longer setting the default server to jabber.ccc.de. The current default is jabber.org (default in Instantbird) and users have to manually enter the server they want to use. We do make it easy by configuring HS access for known servers (see #13855 for the list) but otherwise we don't set any defaults.

Please not use exit, but use: xmpp://okj7xc6j2szr2y75.onion/

Note: See TracTickets for help on using tickets.