Opened 4 years ago

Closed 2 years ago

Last modified 2 years ago

#16107 closed enhancement (fixed)

Should OnioNS use the .tor pseudo-TLD?

Reported by: Jesse V. Owned by:
Priority: Medium Milestone:
Component: Archived/general Version:
Severity: Normal Keywords: Tor, onion, tor-hs
Cc: tom, mcs Actual Points:
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Description (last modified by tom)

The Onion Name System (OnioNS) is a new alternative DNS for Tor hidden services. In it, I'm claiming the .tor pseudo-TLD, which can point to either .tor or .onion TLDs, making it a Tor-only DNS. The .tor domain seems appropriate given the context, but really any TLD may be used as long as it's not in use on the Internet, since Tor needs to intercept and handle those lookups differently than regular hostnames.

<tjr> We're working on asking the IETF to reserve .onion for us, and it's a harrowing experience in circular discussions and such
<tjr> One of the things that's come out of the discussions, that (I think) is likely to happen is a .alt will be reserved with the intention that people deploying new TLDs would use .alt, and possibly switch to a reserved TLD after it gets enough ciritcal mass. (Maybe)
<tjr18> I would really like to use .tor also, I'm basically just wondering if it it will earn us points in our efforts if we were to say "Look, .alt wasn't around in 2004, but it might be today, so we decided to use that while we develop this." and then hopefully switch .tor

I would like to use .tor for development and production, but I am willing to use .alt or .tor.alt for development and then switch to .tor, or change to a different TLD permanently if it makes life easier. If there is enough demand, I can do that. Otherwise, I will use .tor. Please express your opinions and close the ticket when we have a consensus.

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comment:1 Changed 4 years ago by tom

Cc: tom added
Description: modified (diff)

I'd like to let the DNSOP discussions continue for a little bit longer before we decide using the less friendly ".tor.alt" is worthwhile.

And there's always friendlyname.tor.onion :)

comment:2 in reply to:  1 Changed 4 years ago by Jesse V.

Replying to tom:

And there's always friendlyname.tor.onion :)

True, but I just don't like the idea of using two seemingly-TLDs stacked like that. It's strange and rarely seen on the Internet.

I will continue with .tor unless there's pressure from the discussions to switch to something else temporarily or permanently.

comment:3 Changed 4 years ago by mcs

Cc: mcs added

comment:4 Changed 2 years ago by dgoulet

Keywords: tor-hs added; hidden services removed
Resolution: fixed
Severity: Normal
Status: newclosed

2 years of no objection, I think we are good :).

comment:5 Changed 2 years ago by tom

Actually, there is objection, just not in the ticket. I object, for pretty much the same reasons Alec objects, and agrees with Nick over here: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2017-April/012171.html =)

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