Changes between Initial Version and Version 1 of Ticket #18361, comment 220


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  • Ticket #18361, comment 220

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    66It's not like you can catch everything all the time even now anyway, it's defense in depth and it's all in the numbers. Only you will know if it really makes sense (you have the data) and I appreciate your replies and the time you take to consider this suggestion. It is not for me to say of course, but I like to believe the suggestion is worth your time (from my admittedly limited perspective, I see potential to calm many people down this way -- it is not mine although it is an obvious one, many people are asking here and elsewhere).
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    8 I agree wholeheartedly with your mention of focusing on individual requests instead (who wouldn't?). The problem is, it's just a promise at this point. If you could really do it efficiently and reliably, this entire discussion would be moot -- you could drop IP rep altogether. However, you don't, so evidently you can't (yet) do it efficiently and reliably, and timing matters. Whatever long-term plans CF might have regarding a strictly request-level approach, any short-term compromises will help. Also, can we honestly believe strictly-request-level solutions will someday be completely satisfactory? Data correlation is extremely powerful and the temptation (or even pressure from your customers, direct or indirect) will always remain to leverage it (as evidenced by your apparently very successful IP reputation system). Attempting to reduce CF's reliance on it is a noble goal that I support, I'm just afraid it is only a mirage that will only perpetuate the status quo (which, in my view and that of many others, is hardly tenable). Hopefully I don't come across as a defeatist, I'm just trying to be realistic (hence the more nuanced suggestion).
     8I agree wholeheartedly with your mention of focusing on individual requests instead (who wouldn't?). The problem is, it's just a promise at this point. If you could really do it efficiently and reliably, this entire discussion would be moot -- you could drop IP rep altogether. However, you don't, so evidently you can't (yet) do it efficiently and reliably, and timing matters. Whatever long-term plans CF might have regarding a strictly request-level approach, any short-term compromises will help. Also, can we honestly believe strictly-request-level solutions will someday be completely satisfactory? Data correlation is extremely powerful and the temptation (or even pressure from your customers, direct or indirect) will always remain to leverage it (as evidenced by your apparently very successful IP reputation system). Attempting to reduce CF's reliance on it is a noble goal that I support, I'm just afraid it is a mirage that will only perpetuate the status quo (which, in my view and that of many others, is hardly tenable). Hopefully I don't come across as a defeatist, I'm just trying to be realistic (hence the more nuanced suggestion).