Opened 15 months ago

Last modified 4 months ago

#25715 new task

Ubuntu bionic LTS freezes this month and currently contains Tor 0.3.2.x

Reported by: arma Owned by:
Priority: High Milestone: Tor: unspecified
Component: Core Tor/Tor Version:
Severity: Normal Keywords:
Cc: sdeziel Actual Points:
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Description (last modified by arma)

Their release schedule says that it will be a 5 year LTS, so supported until April 2023:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases

Bionic is on track to include Tor 0.3.2.10:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/tor

But Tor 0.3.2.x is scheduled to end-of-life in late 2018:
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/teams/NetworkTeam/CoreTorReleases#Listofreleases

So we are on track for 4.5 years of sadness for ubuntu users.

I see three possible paths forward:

  • Inform Ubuntu but accept that they will stick to Tor 0.3.2, and plan to just have a miserable passive-aggressive existence with Ubuntu users for the coming years. :(
  • Ask Ubuntu to switch back to Tor 0.2.9 (our LTS), which will be supported through the end of 2019. It is plausible that we would opt to continue supporting 0.2.9 for a while more after that too, depending on when our next LTS appears. (I believe our plan is to choose our next LTS based on Debian's schedule.)
  • Make a deal with Ubuntu where they ship either 0.3.2 or 0.2.9 for now, but when our next LTS appears, they'll update to it. In the past we tried such a thing and it didn't go as smoothly as either side would have liked, but that doesn't mean the idea itself is a bad one.

I think we should work towards achieving option 2 or option 3, since option 1 would be unfortunate.

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Change History (7)

comment:1 Changed 15 months ago by arma

Description: modified (diff)

comment:2 Changed 15 months ago by teor

Type: defecttask

There are probably some release management tags we should tag this with, but I'm not sure what they are.

comment:3 Changed 15 months ago by dgoulet

I just passed along this to our Ubuntu packager (Simon Deziel). I hope he'll be able to comment soon about this.

comment:4 Changed 15 months ago by sdeziel

Option 3. Bionic will use 0.3.2 until the next Tor LTS is released at which point we'll do the transition.

comment:5 Changed 15 months ago by sdeziel

Cc: sdeziel added

comment:6 Changed 10 months ago by nickm

Milestone: Tor: unspecified

comment:7 Changed 4 months ago by arma

https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/tor still shows that it has Tor 0.3.2.10, and sure enough, Tor has dropped support for it, as of last October:
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/org/teams/NetworkTeam/CoreTorReleases#Endoflife

In a comment above, sdeziel suggests moving to Tor's next LTS once it's out. That is Tor 0.3.5.x, right? And it's out now, and has been our recommended stable for months.

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