Opened 7 years ago

Closed 3 years ago

#5993 closed project (fixed)

accept direct donations via credit/debit card

Reported by: phobos Owned by:
Priority: Medium Milestone:
Component: Archived/operations Version:
Severity: Normal Keywords: SponsorZ
Cc: Actual Points:
Parent ID: Points:
Reviewer: Sponsor:

Description

A growing number of people are asking for direct donations via their credit/debit card, preferably monthly too. Relying upon paypal, amazon, and google is somewhat successful, but more want to simply donate directly without sharing their info with others. Donating directly will mean people should be aware they are sharing their info with us, our payment processor (to be determined), our bank, their bank, and the credit card provider (discover, visa, mastercard, american express).

We'll also need to integrate this into the website in some secure manner.

Child Tickets

TicketStatusOwnerSummaryComponent
#11678closedintegrate stripe into the donations pageArchived/Ponies

Change History (18)

comment:1 Changed 7 years ago by cypherpunks

oh this is great news this will finally allow anonymous donations via prepaid cc.
looking forward to making the first anonymous donation :)

comment:2 Changed 7 years ago by runa

Depending on the prepaid cc you have, you may be required to register it with a real name and a real address before using it for anything online.

comment:3 Changed 7 years ago by cypherpunks

the prepaid cc in question is usable online only.

comment:4 Changed 7 years ago by cypherpunks

As mentioned in #5921, please offer anonymous donations via UKash, cashU or Liberty Reserve. Those would enable people to donate anonymously to the Tor Project.

On your donation site, you are telling people interested in donating in an anonymous way to contact you by email for further details. Wouldn't it be better revealing directly, how one can make anonymous donations (e.g. sending cash to you) instead of forcing people to send you an (non-anonymous) email?

Please clarify.

comment:5 Changed 7 years ago by phobos

SponsorZ, and therefore this ticket, are for future projects to complete. They are designed to be non-trivial and require resource we do not have today; whether financial to hire people or dedicated volunteers willing to tackle a hard problem. There is no timeline for beginning a project, only interest in having something completed. Discussion should be considered to be for some future implementer to read and think about.

comment:6 in reply to:  1 Changed 7 years ago by phobos

Replying to cypherpunks:

oh this is great news this will finally allow anonymous donations via prepaid cc.
looking forward to making the first anonymous donation :)

Why doesn't this work today via paypal, amazon, or google checkout?

comment:7 in reply to:  4 Changed 7 years ago by phobos

Replying to cypherpunks:

As mentioned in #5921, please offer anonymous donations via UKash, cashU or Liberty Reserve. Those would enable people to donate anonymously to the Tor Project.

On your donation site, you are telling people interested in donating in an anonymous way to contact you by email for further details. Wouldn't it be better revealing directly, how one can make anonymous donations (e.g. sending cash to you) instead of forcing people to send you an (non-anonymous) email?

We're not telling them to contact us, we're telling them the only legal anonymous ways today, which are cash-related (actual cash, money order, bank checks). Specifically, we state "If you want to make an anonymous donation, please do so in an anonymous way." The contact info is there for general questions or more sophisticated transactions like stock grants, real estate gifts, etc.

Signing up for psuedo-monetary units, like bitcoin, liberty reserve, and the like run into financial regulations like GAAP and the ISA standards. And how one values such things before converting them to accepted monetary units.

I'm not saying no, but it needs more research before we accept these methods. We can only fight so many battles at once.

comment:8 Changed 7 years ago by karsten

Keywords: SponsorZ added
Milestone: Sponsor Z: November 1, 2013

Switching from using milestones to keywords for sponsor deliverables. See #6365 for details.

comment:9 Changed 7 years ago by phobos

Talked to dwolla, they were excited to have us as a non-profit customer. Failed to setup a dwolla account because dwolla requires a physical copper-based phone line or mobile phone registered in the company name as a contact number. There is no exception to this policy apparently, even though we can prove company registration, tax filings, etc.

comment:10 Changed 7 years ago by cypherpunks

Had you accepted bitcoins a year ago, through any number of exchanges you could have received 1000 bitcoins in donations at $5/btc. Today, btc is worth $12.99/btc. A $5,000 donation turns into $12,990 for doing nothing but sitting on said donation in your btc wallet.

comment:11 in reply to:  10 Changed 7 years ago by phobos

Replying to cypherpunks:

Had you accepted bitcoins a year ago, through any number of exchanges you could have received 1000 bitcoins in donations at $5/btc. Today, btc is worth $12.99/btc. A $5,000 donation turns into $12,990 for doing nothing but sitting on said donation in your btc wallet.

Had we invested in AAPL or GOOG we also could get a great return. However, we're not talking about how Tor invests its money, we're talking about accepting credit/debit cards directly.

Still working on dwolla and a payment processor or two.

comment:12 Changed 7 years ago by phobos

One step closer to dwolla, https://www.dwolla.com/hub/812-526-5770

comment:13 Changed 7 years ago by phobos

dwolla is now accepted. Still working on credit/debit cards directly.

comment:14 Changed 6 years ago by cypherpunks

What about stripe.com for cc handling?

comment:15 Changed 5 years ago by phobos

Given the recent issues with paypal, this has bumped up the search for a better way to accept credit/debit cards directly. Contacted Stripe and a local bank offering to accept cards.

comment:16 Changed 4 years ago by isis

Component: Companyoperations
Owner: phobos deleted
Status: newassigned

Reassigning/recomponentising phobos' tickets, since we deleted phobos' password (#15896). Please feel free to reassign/recomponentise again if you feel there's a better category.

comment:17 Changed 4 years ago by isis

Status: assignednew

comment:18 Changed 3 years ago by cass

Resolution: fixed
Severity: Normal
Status: newclosed

I believe this is being addressed under the Blue Rabbit crowdfunding db project via Shari.

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