Investigate alternatives for social media

Someone from occupy nigeria emailed me and said they used a combination of friendica (http://friendica.com/) and diaspora for their social media needs. It worked really well and they were in control of their data.

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identi.ca has now changed their web UI to require one trust cloudfare and googleapis to use the site at all. Independent pump.io clients seem to lack core functionality. Rather than force users to trust identi.ca, cloudflare, and googleapis, what other options exist? We can run our own pump.io client when it makes it into the debian repositories.

In general, we should look at improving the state of federated social networking and pointed non-federated options at our federated choices.

The issue with friendica is that it isn't in debian repos (not even jessie) at this point. I wonder if we should offer a bounty for friendica, pump.io, and mediagoblin acceptance and maintenance in debian repos.

How is this different than twitter?

Twitter.com requires twimg.com. Twimg.com is run by Twitter. Once you decide to trust twitter as an org, you can use both twitter.com and twimg.com.

How is this different than facebook?

A volunteer setup our facebook page and then the world thought it was our official one. We had to take it over to help keep the quality of the content at the level we would like.

In reality, federated social networking needs actual federation.

Replying to phobos:

How is this different than facebook?

A volunteer setup our facebook page and then the world thought it was our official one. We had to take it over to help keep the quality of the content at the level we would like.

facebook requires you trust facebook and akamai to use the site.

Please consider joining the W3C Federated Social Web Community Group: http://www.w3.org/community/fedsocweb/

There is a lot of interest in improving security and privacy in that community and collaboration would be very welcome.

Also note that the Jitsi XMPP client likely will be integrated in Tails: https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/6236

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Replying to akuckartz:

Please consider joining the W3C Federated Social Web Community Group: http://www.w3.org/community/fedsocweb/

There is a lot of interest in improving security and privacy in that community and collaboration would be very welcome.

Can we join as individuals or do we have to be part of an accepted w3c organization?

Replying to phobos:

Can we join as individuals or do we have to be part of an accepted w3c organization?

There are not many conditions for joining a W3C Community Groups (which are different from the more formal W3C Working Groups):

"If you work for a non-Member organization

"If you are affiliated with a non-Member organization, you may join the group immediately on behalf of the organization, which we recommend in most cases.

"Or, you may request to participate without representing your affiliated organization, but those requests are subject to W3C Staff sole discretion. We attempt to address requests within one business day. W3C publishes guidelines for evaluating individual requests to participate in a group. ...

"If you have no affiliation with any organization, you join immediately as an individual."

http://www.w3.org/community/blog/question/how-do-i-join-a-group/

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Using free-software and federated systems is great. However, the goal of using social media is to communicate effectively with folks who are interested in Tor. If most folks are only interested in getting updates via Facebook or Twitter, I think it also makes sense to run Facebook and Twitter accounts.

Replying to StrangeCharm:

Using free-software and federated systems is great. However, the goal of using social media is to communicate effectively with folks who are interested in Tor. If most folks are only interested in getting updates via Facebook or Twitter, I think it also makes sense to run Facebook and Twitter accounts.

We have both already. The goal is to manage everything from one interface.

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A few people have recommended Twister, http://twister.net.co/, to me.

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Killing this as we clearly aren't going to make progress on it.

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closed

moved to tpo/web/trac#6718 (closed)