Opened 6 years ago

Last modified 3 years ago

#9575 reopened defect

Rename "New Identity"

Reported by: cypherpunks Owned by: mikeperry
Priority: Medium Milestone:
Component: Applications/Tor Browser Version:
Severity: Normal Keywords: tbb-newnym, tbb-torbutton
Cc: arma Actual Points:
Parent ID: Points:
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Description

TorBrowser can't to change or clear your identity. Torbutton can to clear history, to close tabs, to send newnym signal to Tor's controller by one click.

Tor by newnym signal can't to change or clear your identity. Tor can discard old circuits and begin to build new one. Circuit can't to be used as identity. IP address of exit node can't to be used as identity too (here you can discuss about ownership, leases, assigns, and nats at final).

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Change History (10)

comment:1 Changed 6 years ago by cypherpunks

Propose renaming to "New Session".

Lets to discuss.

comment:2 Changed 6 years ago by arma

Cc: arma added

comment:3 Changed 5 years ago by arma

Keywords: tbb-newnym added

comment:4 Changed 5 years ago by mikeperry

Dupped to #9906.

comment:5 Changed 5 years ago by mikeperry

Resolution: duplicate
Status: newclosed

comment:6 Changed 5 years ago by cypherpunks

Resolution: duplicate
Status: closedreopened

How it's duplicate? No matter what you does with your tabs, this bug about naming button not about those functional. No word "Identity" can be used by browser.

Last edited 5 years ago by cypherpunks (previous) (diff)

comment:7 in reply to:  1 Changed 5 years ago by arma

Replying to cypherpunks:

Propose renaming to "New Session".

Lets to discuss.

I agree with you that technically it's not entirely accurate.

But it's not clear to me that saying "session" would provide any more accuracy -- everybody brings their own assumptions to these words, and many of those assumptions don't apply well.

The main reason I'd suggest to stick with 'new identity' is because Tor users recognize the phrase by now.

comment:8 Changed 5 years ago by cypherpunks

But it's not clear to me that saying "session" would provide any more accuracy -- everybody brings their own assumptions to these words, and many of those assumptions don't apply well.

I think "session" more close to actual action than "identity". With new session you probably expect "restart" of browser. Or lets to rename it to just "Restart Browser", it still technically is not entirely accurate but very close to what Torbrowser should to do by this button. (Torbrowser should to restart in theory, only then it can guarantee something and to solve many leaking bugs happens without restart. Alas, it's too expensive to implement in practice)

The main reason I'd suggest to stick with 'new identity' is because Tor users recognize the phrase by now.

I believe it's accurate to assume that users can to learn something new, especially if new terms more close to reality.

Then this button "Restart Browser", and yet one "New Circuit" placed on Navigation Toolbar could to resolve all confusions. "New Circuit" can to close active connection per tab(s) and should to send newnym signal using control connection.

Last edited 5 years ago by cypherpunks (previous) (diff)

comment:9 Changed 5 years ago by erinn

Component: TorBrowserButtonTor Browser
Keywords: tbb-torbutton added

comment:10 Changed 3 years ago by bugzilla

Severity: Normal

It should not start with "New", 'cause it doesn't mean termination of the current session.
FF users know "session" as FF session.
It is a new Tor session by meaning. But TBB doesn't allow several sessions simultaneously, so everything must be destroyed to create a new one. But this is not obvious for users.

Proposals:
Clear all and restart
Close all and restart
Start from empty session
Start from clear session
Restart with new identity
Restart as a new nym

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