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This page aims to list community experiences with Tor and various Internet Service Providers (ISPs) around the world. Some ISPs are Tor-friendly, some are not. Some are competent and clueful about Tor or about security in general. Let us know!

Be sure to provide useful information like how much bandwidth you pushed, whether you thought the deal was cheap or expensive, how hard you had to work to make them understand what's going on, how long your server has been running, and whether you'd recommend them to others.

Good experiences

  • Team Cinipac "allow on all server locations services like TOR/VPN/I2P because we are supporting projects who safe the privacy like wikileaks, TOR etc. We stand behind our customer and abuse will be forwarded to you to take action. If you have problems, need help etc. just only contact our Abuse/Law Department they will help you in this case. We do not provide any kind of information to third parties. Our company locate in Panama and we ignore court orders from other countries, because we think privacy is an human right." - pretty expensive though
  • Santrex has servers in UK, France, USA, Germany and Canada, and they explicitly allow Tor exits at all locations - but recommend their DDOS protected US location. Abuse will be forwarded, and if dealt with within 24-48hrs, the account won't get suspended. They also allow a wide range of payment processors besides PayPal, eg. Liberty Reserve, WebMoney and CashU.

US

  • Cyberonic is now on the COVAD backbone, so you should be able to get service from them anywhere you could get other COVAD-based service. They offer 6.0m/768kbps at $59/month, w/ a static IP. Can't recall ever having downtime due to them and their TOS only restrict Email relay servers (and that's probably only enforced if you have complaints). All other servers ok. If you sign up, tell 'em brianwc sent you and I think I get a free month. -- BrianC
  • RoadRunner (TimeWarner) (USA): Very reliable service. Been running web server on 80 for several years. IP changes when cable modem reset (almost never for me). No ports blocked (that I know of). No BW limits, only speed caps. I've got 5Mbps down/384kbps up. Definitely recommend. Running Tor since Jan 06. -- MichaelAnsel
  • Speakeasy allows users to run arbitrary servers without port or traffic volume restrictions. Static IP addresses are offered without question or complaint.
  • Slicehost/Rackspace (a hosting provider, not an ISP) allows running Tor on their servers, but if anybody downloads copyrighted material illegally through Tor, that's a ToS violation. I had an issue with a DMCA (copyright violation) notice triggered by Tor activity exiting through my server, and I had to agree to block the port on which the material was downloaded for them to let me continue running the exit relay. Setting an ExitPolicy that only allows certain ports is probably smart if you don't want to get into trouble. Otherwise, the service is great; each server gets guaranteed 10 Mbps, and the network has never been down in the 6 months I've been a customer. Plans start at US $20/month, reasonably cheap as these things go. Update: 3 March 2010: Approach with caution. I'd love to move my exit node to Slicehost, but after trading several e-mails with a Greg in technical support, I could not get a straight answer about whether Tor complies with the company's AUP. Greg's response when pushed: "Again, we do not recommend this service to be run on our platform. If you have any other questions, please let us know." -- EricB
  • FDCservers allows Tor, and customers to react to abuse within 24 hours before taking further steps.
  • Sh3lls says their dedicated servers can be used for anything legal, as long as the customer handles abuse they're fine.
  • 100tb.com (Softlayer) allows Tor exits, abuse needs to be addressed within 24 hours.

Germany

  • Although its located in the netherlands, Germans could try Leaseweb. The're hosting more than one *big* Tor-server and are quite tolerant. (anonym, 4/2010)
  • EUServ seems to be a good ISP for Tor. They have a bad support, but if you know how to maintain your server, this ISP is a good choice. --JensKubieziel (http://identi.ca/notice/15888906)
  • Hetzner are a German hosting provider with a number of Tor servers running on Dedicated Hosts. So far they appear to be tolerant of Tor services although no abuse has been reported to test this. -- Steve_Crook
  • IPX-Server.de (DE) has generous traffic limits (there are contracts including 1TB/Mo) and behaves as I'd expect it from good partners. Some BSA-notice regarding Torrents arrived, they informed me and told me to stop this "illegal activities" and said, after reading and (at least it seems so) understanding my reply explaining tor with "ok, we won't interfere, your problem".
  • http://www.keyweb.de/ offers cheap and reliable Virtuals Servers with 2GB HDD-space and liberal policies. The cheapest VPS is around 8 Euros.
  • Server4You (Germany, part of Intergenia AG) hasn't complained about a tor server (running on a non-virtual server) pushing 300GB/month for more than two years. They only block incoming port 6667. They are hosting more than a dozen tor servers. -- SvenNeuhaus (2008/01)

Server4You limits on virtual servers are ridiculous, actually. numtcpsock 288, tcpsndbuf/tcprcvbuf 3598712, lots of failcnt. Cant use them with tor. [2010/02]

Finland

  • TeliaSonera Finland: Largest ISP in Finland. I've been running Tor node on 8/1 ADSL with semipermanent IP address (changes rarely). ISP has not interfered in anyway. They block only port 25. In the future TSF may activate "black lists" based on DSN (sorry effort to "fight kiddied porn). 60+ kBps continuosly. -- JussiSavola

Netherlands

  • John Brooks runs a 2TB node at LeaseWeb. He would recommend them for running a relay. -- JensKubieziel
  • Ecatel explicitly allows Tor exit nodes and forwards abuse/DCMA, but their network isn't the most stable. You need to email them for a custom offer. They also accept UKash/CashU.
  • Netrouting has no problems with Tor

Norway

  • NextGentel (Norway): Allows Tor-servers. Assists Norwegian secret police in doing total surveillance of customers they torture for sharing their opinion without warrant or even a reason.

Sweden

  • TeliaSonera is also big in Sweden and deliver where other ISPs can't (They were previously the state monopoly, which they still are, but they now pretend it's free competition while they still own all the fiber). Blocks port 25 for all customers. Does not bother Tor-server operators.
  • PRQ has no problems with Tor exits and abuse forwarding, but at a heavy price...

Canada

  • TekSavvy has a server-friendly Internet Use Policy (e.g., running a Tor relay) and has taken a stand in favour of net neutrality. (2008-12)

Slovenia

  • With Tuš Hosting we had really good experience running a 5 MB/s full-exit Tor on a dedicated server on colocation. They said that they care just that we pay our bills and they just simply forward DMCA notices to us to handle (or ignore) them and forward police to our home doors to question us. I really recommend them and if anybody wants to put another Tor node/server there I am willing to help. Mitar (mitar@…)

Malaysia

Ukraine

Bad experience

US

  • Charter: "Bandwidth Sharing", or indeed any type of "Server" is forbidden on Charter. They appear to be imposing an artificial bandwidth limit is well. -- ManaUser
  • Ezzi.net. Running Tor was fine until Undernet mailed Ezzi.net a complaint which falsely claimed Tor was somehow a "botnet". This made a very rude person at Ezzi send a mail which falsely claimed the Tor servers were hacked and "It appears whoever caused this hacked the servers by brute forcing SSH logins and uploading a fake httpd binary and launching it.". This person kept on insisting the servers were hacked after being politely informed that Undernet had confused Tor traffic with a "botnet" and that the servers where not compromised in any way, so it's kind of hard to tell if the person was troublesome because the person did not understand what Tor is or if this person at Ezzi generally just imagines things and think they are part of reality. But it is clear that most ezzi customers become ex-customers after meeting this known-to-be-rude tech.
  • LayeredTech are a server hosting company located in Texas. I ran a server for six months without any issues, but then someone used the Tor server to exploit a PHP vulnerability. Explaining the goals of Tor to LayeredTech resulted in it being made clear that I was responsible for any and all abuse through my IP address. Shortly after this they ordered me to shutdown Tor. -- Steve_Crook
  • SONIC.NET of Santa Rosa, CA have terms of service that would apparently be Tor-friendly; but this thread http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15272743 includes comments by SONIC.NET's CEO that don't sound particularly friendly or open to the idea of running an exit node.
  • Linode will terminate your service if you run an exit node. Non-exit relays are allowed.
  • Tektonic will suspend your VPS with no prior notice if you run "any proxy". They used to tolerate TOR if you didn't run an exit node but they are now apparently auditing the VPSs for processes named tor. They did however restore the VPS very promptly after I promised to uninstall tor and privoxy.
  • Comcast's Acceptable Use Policy for residential customers says no servers or proxies under "Technical Restrictions" (2009-08-10 tip from Scott Bennett).

Phobos' research

ISP Name Allowed IRC? Allowed Proxies? Allowed Tor?
CI Host N Y Y
Iweb.ca N Y Y
Host Voice N N N
Super Servers N N N
Vericenter N Y Y
Dedicated Now] N Y Y
Soft Layer Y Y Y
Tek Tonic N N N
Unixshell N N N
Verizon FiOS N N N

Notes:

  • Unixshell/Tektonic are the same company. They nullroute you on the first abuse complaint. Middleman nodes are ok, but the abuse dept requests "SafeLogging 0" set in your torrc and wants full access to your logs on demand.
  • Verizon FiOS officially does not allow any incoming traffic, they reserve the right to disconnect you at any time for violation of this policy. Users have run middleman nodes without any incidents from VZ. Exit nodes with abuse problems have resulted in legal threats and disconnection threats, but no disconnection as of yet.

Germany

  • The german ISP dogado ended up killing the tor server process and blocking the OR-port on my vServer. -- d00b
  • The german ISP EuServ / ISPro -- they just broke the contract, switching our Server off. -- padeluun
  • Manitu forbids any anonymisation techniques in their AGBs --qbi
  • OVH (German ISP) offers root server with a high bandwith (up to 5.000 kB/s). They changed their AGB and cancel "problematic" contracts very fast. -- qbi
  • The german ISP Plusserver.de shut down h07onion due to gross incompetence. Look at http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Mar-2005/msg00120.html for more details.
  • "I have recently checked manitu because they advertise with internet without censorship and data retention. Unofortunatelly they explictly forbid providing anonymazation services in ther general terms and conditions. On inquiry they have justified this restriction with the enourmous bandwidth consumption and the impossibility to achieve fair combined costing in this case. For the same reason they forbid running mirrors of public data such as open source software. So I believe their argument is no pretense." -- Alex, Dec 01 2009 via email.
  • The german provider netcup.de suspended one vserver running a tor exit node, analyzed stuff, and charged 192€ for processing _one_ dmca-notice. - ari

France

  • The french hosting company dedibox (member of iliad) suspended without warning a bunch a machines that were running Tor after the police came down about creditcard fraud.

Finland

Canada

  • Rogers has a no-servers clause in the TOS for their home internet service. If you are running an exit node and receive DMCA notices, you will have no legal recourse except to cancel service. (2008-03)

United Kingdom

  • I have asked and Swiftway doesn't want Tor exits on their network.