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     1== Notes for the 2nd linguini session ==
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    2 # Notes for the 2nd linguini session
     3=== Attendees ===
     4Hiro, Iain, Maka, Norman, Jen, Gunnar, Micah, Emmapeel, Jaime, Leez, Estrella, Alex
    35
    4 ## Attendees
     6=== Digital security documentation ===
    57
    6 Hiro, Iain, Maka, Norman, Jen, Gunnar, Micah, Emmapeel, Jaime, Leez,
    7 Estrella, Alex
     8Estrella: Presents the need for a place to share and validate with colleagues plans, sketches, ideas in a _non-public_ way; a group of people that can act as consultants of sorts, set thits up as a service.
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    9 ## Digital security documentation
     10Iain: recommends the use of `lektor` static site generator (packaged in Debian by Hiro) that includes facilities for translation. Includes a local user-friendly NodeJS-based editor for adding/modifying webpages. It has some issues to be ironed out in Debian yet (i.e. user vs. target mismatch, reliance on pip...)
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    11 Estrella: Presents the need for a place to share and validate with
    12 colleagues plans, sketches, ideas in a _non-public_ way; a group of
    13 people that can act as consultants of sorts, set thits up as a
    14 service.
     12Maka (Free Software Community Radios Network): Wants to get standard criteria for setting up infrastructure for different needs, different realities... Also, comparisons between tools, including _when_ each tool is better than the other (i.e. when to set up mumble or when to prefer jitsi). They are documenting in a Wikithe discussions and decisions they have made as they go. Parts of the wiki are public, part are still in process. In the case of Rhizomatica, all of their wiki is public.
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    16 Iain: recommends the use of `lektor` static site generator (packaged
    17 in Debian by Hiro) that includes facilities for translation. Includes
    18 a local user-friendly NodeJS-based editor for adding/modifying
    19 webpages. It has some issues to be ironed out in Debian yet (i.e. user
    20 vs. target mismatch, reliance on pip...)
     14Hiro: We need a centralized space to publish this information. Gunnar: Maybe it should be a centralized space that _points to_ those resources? We cannot compel organizations to centralize their work in a specific place..?
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    22 Maka (Free Software Community Radios Network): Wants to get standard
    23 criteria for setting up infrastructure for different needs, different
    24 realities... Also, comparisons between tools, including _when_ each
    25 tool is better than the other (i.e. when to set up mumble or when to
    26 prefer jitsi). They are documenting in a Wikithe discussions and
    27 decisions they have made as they go. Parts of the wiki are public,
    28 part are still in process. In the case of Rhizomatica, all of their wiki
    29 is public.
     16Leez: Making available repositories, not in a self-hosted way, but in a way the information is... Not public, but available to trusted organizations...
    3017
    31 Hiro: We need a centralized space to publish this information. Gunnar:
    32 Maybe it should be a centralized space that _points to_ those
    33 resources? We cannot compel organizations to centralize their work in
    34 a specific place..?
     18Differences between IRC, forums (Stack Overflow mentioned repeatedly) for this information... But discussion regarding both of their viability. Stack Overflow has the mindshare, but is not privacy-respecting. Micah: irc.indymedia.org channel `#tech` has been around since the mid 1990s and has interesting people logged in...
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    36 Leez: Making available repositories, not in a self-hosted way, but in
    37 a way the information is... Not public, but available to trusted
    38 organizations...
     20Jaime: Generational divide. IRC ↔ Mattermost (including gateways between them..?
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    40 Differences between IRC, forums (Stack Overflow mentioned repeatedly)
    41 for this information... But discussion regarding both of their
    42 viability. Stack Overflow has the mindshare, but is not
    43 privacy-respecting. Micah: irc.indymedia.org channel `#tech` has been
    44 around since the mid 1990s and has interesting people logged in...
     22Micah: Collaborative documents editing. Libreoffice via Nextcloud works better than Etherpad/Ethercalc. Collabora → presents a libreoffice window (hackish); OnlyOffice → Better solution, included by Nextcloud.
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    46 Jaime: Generational divide. IRC ↔ Mattermost (including gateways
    47 between them..?
     24Where do we go from here? How to avoid losing track of this topic until the next Tor meeting? IRC? Email? Discourse? Zulip? ... ?
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    49 Micah: Collaborative documents editing. Libreoffice via Nextcloud
    50 works better than Etherpad/Ethercalc. Collabora → presents a
    51 libreoffice window (hackish); OnlyOffice → Better solution, included
    52 by Nextcloud.
    53 
    54 Where do we go from here? How to avoid losing track of this topic
    55 until the next Tor meeting? IRC? Email? Discourse? Zulip? ... ?
    56 
    57 ## Concept map — Digital security documentation
     26=== Concept map — Digital security documentation ===
    5827
    5928Jaime drew a concept map
    6029
     30{{{
     31  static site generators
     32    |
     33    ↓
     34    git --->  {ikiwiki, jekyll, hugo, lektor}
     35      |
     36      ↓
     37      Repositories |          | ↓          ↓
     38    Decentralization   Private vs.
     39      |                 public |
     40  Tool + service comparison table
     41    |
     42    |
     43  Ask a Digisec question? | ↓
    6144
    62     static site generators
    63                            |
    64                                    ↓
    65                               git --->  {ikiwiki, jekyll, hugo, lektor}
    66                                                                |
    67                                                                                                        ↓
    68                                                                                                    Repositories
    69                                                                                                    |          |
    70                                                                                                    ↓          ↓
    71                                          Decentralization   Private vs.
    72                                                                                     |                 public
    73                                                                                     |
    74                                    Tool + service comparison table
    75                                                                         |
    76                                                                                         |
    77                                                                 Ask a Digisec question?
    78                                                                 |
    79                                                                 ↓
    80                                 {IRC channel, lists, forums, mattermost, zulip, discourse....}
    81                                                     |
    82                                                                 ↓
    83                                            linguine@lists.riseup.net
     45{IRC channel, lists, forums, mattermost, zulip, discourse....}
     46
     47  |
     48  ↓
     49
     50linguine@lists.riseup.net
     51}}}