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     1= Global South, Day 1 meeting (Sept. 30, 2018)
     2
     3== Getting Started
     4        - Amsterdam - realized that community building, relationships, global south were not a high enough priority
     5        - Plan:
     6                - Meetings - have historically been w-europe & US & Canada
     7                - Relay advocacy
     8                - Community advocacy (ggus)
     9                - Translator coordinator (emmapeel)
     10
     11== Started to do:
     12        - reading all the emails about meetings, taking notes about some topics that we think about a little (but not enough)
     13                - more infrastructure in global south - relay & bandwidth authority
     14                - hold tor meeting in global south (done! success!)
     15                - local tor meetups - tor providing more resource - $$$, ppl, resources)
     16                - board members located in global south
     17                - support local conferences (cryptorave, etc)
     18               
     19
     20=== What we've done:
     21        - Tor meetups in Colombia
     22        - meeting in CDMX
     23        - Tor training weeks - Brasil, Colombia, Mexico, Mauritania
     24        - lots of activities for open days - decided w/ community what events to hold during open days
     25        - Free Software Forum in Brasil
     26        - Cryptography Rights in Brasilia
     27        - lots of translations
     28
     29=== Intros: What are ppl doing in CDMX?
     30        - Derechos Digitales
     31        - Asking the group: What are you up to? What challenges? What opportunities?
     32                - A.
     33                        - Yucatan - responsible for Tor BSD port (technically happening in Global South)
     34                        - Interested in spreading knowledge of Tor, getting journalists to use it
     35                        - making sure documentation is translated for spanish, portuguese, arabic - priority from the beginning
     36                        - attitudes in Mexico: it's either illegal, or it's smth you shouldn't be doing - education should be a priority
     37                - F.
     38                        - community outreach for Guardian Project
     39                        - education - digital security in general, what apps & options there are - very hard! Why should ppl use these tools?
     40                - M.
     41                        - UNAM
     42                        - 2 yr project - enhance and promote anonymity & privacy tools
     43                        - Colloquium this thurs & fri
     44                        - concentrating on the Tor Project
     45                                - if you ask ppl about Tor in MX, ppl relate it to dark web - working to redirect this, educate - Tor is not illegal, not a hacking tool
     46                                - creating multimedia, material, promotion
     47                - G.
     48                        - announcement on tues about expansion of the board, related to initiatives in global south
     49                        - very concerned abt issue w/ negative conceptions around anonymity - Tor, Anonymous - very big piece coming out in McSweeney's
     50                        - overcoming negative ideas about the dark web
     51                        - writing quite a bit about this
     52                        - while collected examples about positive uses of anonymity - these examples tend towards NA & Europe, some from Middle East
     53                                - if you have examples of uses of anonymity (esp. political), contact her!
     54                - G.
     55                        - feel that I'm the person who gained the most from having the meeting here (G. is local!)
     56                - S.
     57                        - communications @ Tor
     58                        - here to listen, offer assistance in messaging, campaigns, etc.
     59                - J.
     60                        - SecureDrop - has been only in English, is now being translated
     61                        - interested to hear what Tor is doing in these areas
     62                - M.
     63                        - OONI
     64                        - managing partnerships
     65                        - training local comms to use OONI
     66                        - collaborate on reporting censorship
     67                        - working w/ lawyers to use OONI in court cases
     68                        - Art campaigns - using OONI data
     69                - C.
     70                        - many events, esp for women - feminism
     71                        - educating about Tor, anonymity
     72                        - Vedettas
     73                - F.
     74                        - working for 10 years in Brasil @ Internet without Borders
     75                        - work in Africa as well - Cameroon, Togo, Chad
     76                        - Coalition of those fighting for internet rights in Brasil
     77                                - more directed towards lawyers, journalists - rather than hackers - focusing on drawing in ppl other than hackers
     78                        - where can we find info about workshops etc in Brasil & local south?
     79
     80                - N.
     81                        - Nicaragua
     82                        - political situation in Nicaragua
     83                        - promoting Tor installs & relays in central america
     84                - A.
     85                        - community team lead
     86                        - one of the ppl initially involved in global south
     87                        - global solidarity & tor is a political project - this political involvement is harmful if it does not include the global south
     88                - P.
     89                        - PM for community team
     90                        - how can we help you?
     91                - S.
     92                        - India, moved to Toronto
     93                        - working for software law center - security trainings, privacy enhancing tools, etc.
     94                        - how to bridge the gap
     95                - H.
     96                        - technology in Africa is not yet adapted - boost in social media and internet use, but no parallel growth in security knowledge
     97                - E.
     98                        - localization lab
     99                        - making circumvention tech more accessible
     100                        - getting past ling barriers, getting volunteers involved
     101                        - language preservation & revitalization thru tech & localization
     102                        - partnering w/ orgs around the globe to get ppl involved in
     103                - I.
     104                        - Derechos Digitales
     105                        - working to increase tor involvement
     106                        - legal analysis
     107                        - exit nodes
     108                        - education - what is tor? what is privacy?
     109                - (missed name)
     110                        - connected to lots of groups in latin america
     111                        - need to learn more as developers
     112                - M.
     113                        - Digital Defender partnership
     114                        - 2 fellows based in SA - Oaxaca & Brasil
     115                        - working w/ orgs- largely feminist collectives - fighting for abortion rights in Latin America
     116                        - promoting use of secure digital tools for feminist movements
     117                        - in MX, working more w/ orgs of families of disappeared ppl - use of anonymity to do research
     118                        - collaborate w/ isomatica - developing autonomous cellphone networks - org currently promoting international & local law allow community networks to exist in Latin America
     119                        - community networks need to be connected w/ Tor etc to provide anonymity - community radios, etc
     120                        - many diff reasons interested
     121                                - Tor needs to have a clear political position in Global South - not only talk from technical perspective, but how to develop anonymity from a political perspective - this is a political action
     122                - e.
     123                        - born in global south
     124                        - localization lead
     125                        - native lang is spanish
     126                        - v important to provide materials in other langs, to allow ppl to use our tools, and also so that hopefully our tools will change - flyers in Mexico are so beautiful! we need to learn from this culture
     127                - E.
     128                        - designer at OONI
     129                        - UX & digital design
     130                        - research reports
     131                - S.
     132                        - Italy, Brasil, Costa Rica currently
     133                        - started the conversation about global south in Amsterdam
     134                        - like to see how we're able to push these things in a concrete way
     135                        - what have I started?
     136                        - saw some challenges in Brasil, in explaining tor and also in setting up exit nodes
     137                        - ppl need legal support in Costa Rica for exit nodes
     138                        - we need to work collectively - as a community
     139                - I.
     140                        - Chile
     141                        - participate in Community team
     142                - S.
     143                        - lots of trainings in India
     144                - D.
     145                        - spent time in West Africa & SE Asia documenting rights issues
     146                        - writing articles for Mozilla's Internet Health Report
     147                                - focus on Digital Inclusion
     148                - M.
     149                        - just listening
     150                - J.
     151                        - Rancho Electronico
     152                                - center for free software culture, dig sec etc
     153                                - education
     154                        - May 1st link
     155                                - providing Tor services
     156                        - lviing in rural community - access and lang localization are v important - bandwidth limitations, etc
     157                        - extractive capitalism as an issue in the global south
     158                                - taking intellectual resources & also physical resources
     159
     160
     161----
     162== What next?
     163
     164Lots of ppl talking about education
     165        - is tor illegal?
     166        - dark web?
     167        - negative conceptions?
     168Tor is currently doing training, looking for local partners - we will send materials to help w/ this training
     169
     170What else can we do?
     171        - strategy: computer science department profs work on machine learning, AI, but there's no paradigm for CS students to work on privacy enhancing software
     172                ----> recruiting from CS departments!
     173        - experience: more than fear of legal repercussions, most people just don't know what Tor is even about. It takes a long time to get ppl to understand what privacy is about. Most ppl don't understand why we need this
     174                - in a country (MX) w/ highest levels of violence against journalists
     175                - We need to get this to social sciences as well! We need to protect the people who talk about people!
     176        - I'd like there to be a list of specific ways in which Tor can help ppl organize
     177        - these civil rights organizations are frequently organized in compromised locations - attitude is that we are being watched, so we'll do this work anyway
     178                - BUT! People don't necessarily know that that's not the only option - that we can protect ourselves while organizing
     179                - list of specific ways in which Tor helps activists, can help activists
     180        - In the case of the Feminist movements, feminists have been using Tor for a long time - lots of ppl already know what anonymity means - but the way that ppl w/ technical knowledge teach about Tor does not necessarily ackowledge what's already being done in these communities. Need to connect the ways we protect privacy offline with the ways we do online. need to acknowledge political aspect of this
     181        - Need to acknowledge the political aspect of this, and we cannot take an apolitical stance - apolitical stance is inherently causing harm
     182        - Open Source should be considered socialist, but it's currently considered capitalist
     183        - Brasil
     184                - there are some social movements who are not related w/ digital stuff, but who have the same political point of view
     185                - movements defending local production of food - agriculture
     186                - these mvmts - we should think about an approximation of these mvmts
     187                - can we get in touch with these groups? seems like a good way to get out of our hacker bubbles
     188                       
     189
     190- challenge w/ this: many human rights groups have very booked calendar - if you don't get in touch while things are being planned, you have to get in touch during their planning time.  It's hard to find time to collaborate
     191        - What can we do about this? Get in touch w/ ppl in charge to find opportunities, when they're planning?
     192        - these orgs need more resources
     193
     194- Talking w/ someone working in Rwanda
     195        - someone started using Tor after looking @ metrics page for Rwanda & seeing only 10 ppl using Tor - they're exposed!
     196        - if more ppl start using Tor in Rwanda, then the 10 ppl currently using Rwanda won't be so exposed - getting involved for solidarity, to help protect others
     197        - helping ppl realize that they should be using Tor all the time - to help protect others
     198        - it's hard for non-tech ppl to understand implications of mass surveillance - how to tell ppl that they should use Tor for regular things, not just buying drugs?
     199
     200- How is Tor organized? Is there a person to contact in different countries?
     201        - Tor has selected 9 countries atm to do trainings
     202                - factors in deciding:
     203                        - we won't be put in danger by giving training
     204                        - need to be in global south, grow community/ help community there
     205                                - we need more help in certain countries - we're just getting started, and we haven't announced this publicly
     206- how can we run workshops specifically related to Tor while protecting our safety?
     207        - can we advertise them as something other than Tor project? Maybe focus more on security, etc
     208        - orgs in Oaxaca - we talk about the work these ppl are doing, rather than focusing on Tor - then they talk about what tactics they need to develop to continue doing their work, and talk about how Tor is one tactic ppl can use- putting the focus on the work, rather than the tool
     209
     210- the need to build a trust relationship with these orgs that may potentially be in danger
     211- we need to build trust over a long time, go there, meet ppl, build trust
     212        - look, you're defending women's rights, etc - you need to protect yourselves in this way
     213
     214- ppl in rural communities will see this differently than in urban communities
     215
     216- reaching out to orgs that have already established these links